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Challenging Bill Proenza's QuikSCAT numbers
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 05:04 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007 +4
A political storm engulfed the National Hurricane Center this week, with a majority of the senior hurricane forecasters calling for Bill Proenza's removal as director. The most visible issue revolved around the extraordinary focus on the aging QuikSCAT satellite. The public argument put forth by Mr. Proenza was that QuikSCAT data was so vital to hurricane track forecasting that without it, track forecast errors would increase significantly, leading to larger warning areas and increased costs for evacuation and emergency planning.

Focus on QuikSCAT--out of proportion?
On March 16th Proenza went public with the QuikSCAT concerns and associated statistics for the first time, stating that "two- and three-day forecasts of a storm's path would be affected. The two-day forecast could be 10 percent worse while the three-day one could be affected up to 16 percent," with the conclusion," that would mean longer stretches of coastline would have to be placed under warnings, and more people than necessary would have to evacuate." As a result of these comments, a perception arose in the public and among lawmakers that without QuikSCAT, NHC would not be able to provide accurate hurricane forecasts. Legislation was hastily introduced into both the House and Senate to provide an immediate replacement for the $375 million satellite.

Proenza's statements raised several questions: 1) Why the focus on track forecast errors in landfalling situations, when QuikSCAT was widely known to be used in intensity forecasting and for tropical cyclones too far at sea to be accessed by the Hurricane Hunters? 2) Could such specific and significant gains in track forecast error truly be attributed to QuikSCAT? Where did these numbers come from, and why was no uncertainty being attached to them?

Since QuikSCAT data became available, starting in 1999, average track errors for 48-hour and 72-hour forecasts have been reduced by 43 miles and 62 miles respectively. Fully one quarter of this improvement was being attributed by Proenza to QuikSCAT. This was an extraordinary performance increase to attribute to one satellite, and seemed doubtful.

We find out where the QuikSCAT numbers came from
In mid-June, Margie Kieper and I asked Proenza to comment on how he got his QuikSCAT numbers. He cited an unpublished study, "A Two Season Impact Study of Four Satellite Data Types and Rawinsonde Data in the NCEP Global Data Assimilation System", by Tom H. Zapotocny, James A. Jung, John F. LeMarshall and Russ E. Treadon. I contacted one of the authors, who informed me that the study was submitted for publication on January 26, 2007, and accepted for publication in the journal Weather and Forecasting on May 23, 2007. It will probably appear in the October-November time frame, according to the publisher. This raises an immediate problem, since only a privileged few are able to read unpublished research. This limits the possibilities for an informed debate on the issue, and basing important policy decisions on unpublished research is thus normally to be avoided. However, making accurate hurricane forecasts is important enough that such considerations can be excused. Proenza didn't give me any details on the study, other than the fact that QuikSCAT data improved 72-hour and 48-hour hurricane track forecasts by 16% and 10% respectively, for a select group of storms from the 2003 hurricane season. One of the authors graciously sent me a copy of the study, though, and after reading it, I had these observations:

1). The study looked at a very limited number of cases over a six-week period during 2003--only 19 cases were available for 72 hour forecasts. The 19 cases were not 19 storms, just 19 separate forecasts from the 4 hurricanes and 2 tropical storms that occurred during the 6-week study period. This sample is too small to draw definitive conclusions about the impact of the QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts. The two longest-lived storms during the test period were Fabian and Isabel, storms that spent the majority of their lifetimes far away from land. Since the quality of the observing network increases close to land, particulary when reconnaissance data from the Hurricane Hunters is available, it is reasonable to conclude that the impact of the QuikSCAT data for storms within 72 hours of landfall would be less than for the sample as a whole. The study was not primarily designed to study tropical cyclone track accuracy, so there was no separation out of the cases we really care about--storms 72 hours or less from landfall.

2). The study was done with only one model, the GFS. NHC official forecasts make use of several models, including the GFDL, UKMET, NOGAPS and ECMWF. Consequently, a change in the accuracy of a single model will have only a partial effect on NHC official forecast accuracy. As far as I know, there have not been studies done of the impact of QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts in the GFDL, UKMET or the ECMWF models. Past studies on the impact of dropsonde data from the Hurricane Hunters, however, show that the GFDL is less sensitive to these data than the GFS is.

3). When I attended the AMS hurricane conference in May 2006 in Monterey, I came across a poster presentation by Dr. Jim Goerss that evaluated the impact of QuikSCAT on the NOGAPS model. His study was far more comprehensive, and included 12 hurricanes, 5 typhoons, and 7 tropical storms from a 6-week period in 2004. The number of cases was 212 at 72 hours, eleven times as many as the study Proenza cites. Dr. Goerss found that QuikSCAT probably improved 24-hour track forecasts by 2.5% (90% confidence of this), but at all other forecast times (48, 72, 96, and 120 hours), QuikSCAT had no statistically significant effect (i.e., zero effect).

It is hard to compare the results from these two studies, since they used two different data assimilation systems. We do not know if they used all the data, or how they treated the vertical impact of the data. The uncertainties are high, and Proenza's simple statement that QuikSCAT data improves hurricane tracks forecasts by 10% and 16% is unreasonable, without at least making mention that these numbers are highly uncertain.

I believe that NHC official forecasts for landfalling storms in the Atlantic would not be significantly affected by the loss of the QuikSCAT satellite. I can't think of a hurricane scientist out there who would defend using a study with only 19 cases that didn't focus on landfalling storms, to make the case Proenza is making--particularly in light of the data from the unpublished Goerss study showing no effect of QuikSCAT data on NOGAPS model tropical cyclone track errors. Proenza should have at least attached some measure of uncertainty to his numbers, which he did not.

One could argue that the study cited by Proenza has undergone peer review, and is thus the only scientific study one can use to make arguments on QuikSCAT's effectiveness. The Goerss study has not been published in a journal, and has not undergone peer review. However, Proenza was making his QuikSCAT accuracy arguments in March, two months before the Zapotocny study he cited had been accepted for publication.

QuikSCAT misconceptions
The numbers pushed by Proenza have led to some potentially serious misconceptions about QuikSCAT. The Congressional Record has this to say about QuikSCAT:

"A single plane gathering data is like a tiny fishing line collecting data only along the single strand of the line. The satellite, on the other hand, provides rich, detailed data horizontally from one side of the storm to the other side, and vertically, from the ocean surface to the top of the storms swirling winds. The QuikSCAT is like a detailed MRI."

Well, QuikSCAT is not like an MRI, it just measures the ocean surface winds. In a letter written by Representatives Melancon and Klein in support of H.R. 2531, there are comments that data from the reconnaissance aircraft are inferior to the data from the QuikSCAT:

"Short-term options for replacing QuikSCAT include hurricane hunter aircraft, buoys, and foreign satellites--all of which will collectively produce inferior data."

There is not a hurricane forecaster anywhere that would trade hurricane hunter data for QuikSCAT. Lawmakers may start cutting aircraft reconnaissance with misconceptions like this. That would be a disaster.

I would hate to lose the QuikSCAT satellite, and have been calling for a replacement since before Mr. Proenza came on the job. QuickSCAT data is invaluable in identifying weak systems and in defining storm structure, particularly of outer wind radii of 34 knots and 50 knots. This is particularly true outside of the Atlantic, where there are no Hurricane Hunter flights, and in the Atlantic beyond where the Hurricane Hunters can reach. Track forecasts for tropical cyclones in the Pacific and Indian Oceans may benefit from QuikSCAT data, since Hurricane Hunter information is not available. QuikSCAT also helps identify when a tropical depression or tropical storm is intensifying.

Besides hurricanes, the QuickSCAT data is invaluable to the Ocean Prediction Center, which now issues hurricane force wind warnings for extratropical storms in the Atlantic and Pacific. Search and rescue missions, and the U.S. Navy also greatly benefit from QuikSCAT. QuikSCAT should be replaced, but not due to a rush knee-jerk reaction that will get us a replacement with old technology. NHC needs a "next-generation" scatterometer, one that has greatly improved capabilities to help tackle the structure and intensity problem. We should take our time, and deal with a gap in coverage, if it gets us an instrument that has higher resolution, higher saturation speed, and is not adversely affected by rain. Such a gap would not put the public at risk.

It greatly troubles me that the most visible and admired member of my profession has failed to use good science in his arguments for funding a replacement of the QuikSCAT satellite. The Director of the National Hurricane Center needs to be an able politician and good communicator, but being truthful with the science is a fundamental requirement of the job as well. Mr. Proenza has misrepresented the science on the QuikSCAT issue, and no longer has my support as director of the National Hurricane Center.

Other critical concerns--lost in the hubbub?
We strongly support many of the valid concerns Proenza has raised. Of particular concern are the slashing of critical research funding for the Joint Hurricane Testbed (JHT) from $1.7 million to $1 million, and the lack of adequate yearly increases to the National Hurricane Center budget. Both of these important concerns still remain to be addressed; they were quickly overshadowed by a frantic campaign by lawmakers to fund a new QuikSCAT satellite. The JHT provides the means for promising research to be tested in the NHC operational environment, usually resulting in a successful transition to an operational product at NHC. This program has been extremely successful, and its budget should have been increased, not slashed. As hurricane activity has increased dramatically over the last twelve years, NHC's budget should have increased accordingly, but it did not.

Proenza also raised legitimate concerns about NOAA's effort to promote their "Corporate Identity" by renaming the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service. The new organizations would be called the "NOAA Hurricane Center" and the "NOAA Weather Service". He also justly complained about NOAA's plan to spend between $1.5 million and $4 million on a "bogus" 200-year NOAA anniversary celebration.

While wanting to take a neutral stand as to whether to call for Proenza's dismissal, Senior NHC Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avila clearly shares the concerns that have been put forth by the other senior forecasters Richard Pasch, James Franklin, and Richard Knabb, and former director Max Mayfield. Avila noted, "If I [was] the director of the hurricane center, I would not spend my time fighting for QuikSCAT--I would be fighting to make sure that the reconnaissance planes are always there." That leaves a vacationing Jack Beven as the only senior hurricane forecaster to not comment publicly on the issue. Max Mayfield has refrained from making public comments on the deteriorating situation these past months, but all of his comments in the Miami Herald article lend support for the hurricane forecast staff. Given his previous experience in the position of NHC Director and his successful tenure, his feedback counts tremendously.

With the busiest part of hurricane season just a few weeks away, expect a decision on Bill Proenza's tenure to be made soon.

Jeff Masters and Margie Kieper

Having lost the support of most of his senior forecasters, and having misrepresented the science on the importance of the QuikSCAT satellite on hurricane forecasts, it would be best for Mr. Proenza to step down as director of the National Hurricane Center.

--Jeff Masters

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51. NorthxCakalaky 05:40 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Special Weather Statement

Statement as of 10:30 AM EDT on July 04, 2007


... A higher risk for wildfires this Holiday evening...

The past two weeks have shown drier than normal conditions
especially from The Triad area east across the Triangle area to
the northern coastal plain of central North Carolina. This has
increased the danger of wildfire in wooded areas and fields. People
celebrating the Fourth of July with fireworks... barbeques... and
picnic campfires should use extra caution in dealing with Sparks
and smoldering embers. Do not leave campfires and barbeques
unattended. And be sure to dowse all fires with water before
leaving this evening.

Reminder to everyone.
53. spiceymonster 05:41 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Is it me or is this becomeing a political debate blog instead of the purpose of a tropical weather blog.
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55. nash28 05:41 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Well, when the blog actually returns to weather from its current Bush bash state, let me know.
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60. Miamiweather 05:43 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
good afternoon everybody i would like to wish everybody a happy 4th of July I have a quick question what are the chances of 96L surviving and becoming a threat for the U.S.
61. bluehaze27 05:43 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
You can't detach anything from the political. NOAA is a government agency and by definition, funding is political. Not only that, but I seem to remember a stop McCain Fiengold amendment banner on this site yesterday. If that isn't political, I don't know what is.
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63. Patrap 05:44 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
..with a low..low approval rating..In numbers and mililbars.


Happy Fourth Everyone!
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65. Boatofacar 05:46 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
I belive we are being a bit to harsh on 96L..a full pardon is in order!!!
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66. moonlightcowboy 05:47 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
AGAIN, QUESTION: The dry air in the area of 55W/17N looks as if you can see through it to clouds below. So, is the dry air higher? And, if it is, is it possible that the air below can keep feeding 96?

It defintely looks like its fading; but if holds on through its next phase and can still find moisture at lower and upper levels, couldn't it still hang on? I'm curious about the layers and of course it looks like the models may even be giving up on it. TIA
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67. TheCaneWhisperer 05:48 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Question Adrian! Is the adjusted TSR numbers including Andrea and Barry? Or is it 15 for the remainder of the season. That would bring the season to 17 which is what they had before.
68. bluehaze27 05:48 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
I didn't vote for Bush but he was my president and I hoped he would do a good job, but in my opinion he didn't. I am a weather observer who's job is at stake because of budget cut backs so I feel this is very germaine to this board. Also, so is discussion of Quikscat, Noaa missions and the use of satellites for global warming studies. Willful ignorance will not carry the day on this one. My livelyhood is at stake and so is the safety of the traveling public.
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71. WeatherfanPR 05:49 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
ok thanks for answer jp ,texas.
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73. NorthxCakalaky 05:50 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Tornadow watch issued in the north-east.
74. TheCaneWhisperer 05:50 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Still on the fence for it being dead! In my opinion it looks to be pulling out of the ITCZ. Now, if it can't rebuild then it is dead but, still not throwing in the towel quite yet.

75. moonlightcowboy 05:50 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
AGREED, NASH!!!
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76. Drakoen 05:51 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
96L is dealing with the dinural min phase so it quite natural. It still has one more dinural max phase before i think it will die. If it can organize then its still 96L. The dust decreases as the system moves to the west and the SST increase.
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77. NorthxCakalaky 05:51 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
urgent - immediate broadcast requested
Tornado Watch number 482
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
145 PM EDT Wed Jul 4 2007

The NWS Storm Prediction Center has issued a
Tornado Watch for portions of

southeast Indiana
northeast Kentucky
far western Maryland
southern and central Ohio
southwest Pennsylvania
northern and central West Virginia

Effective this Wednesday afternoon and evening from 145 PM until
900 PM EDT.

Tornadoes... hail to 1.5 inches in diameter... thunderstorm wind
gusts to 70 mph... and dangerous lightning are possible in these
areas.

The Tornado Watch area is approximately along and 65 statute
miles north and south of a line from 45 miles west of Cincinnati
Ohio to 25 miles south of Latrobe Pennsylvania. For a complete
depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update
(wous64 kwns wou2).

Remember... a Tornado Watch means conditions are favorable for
tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in and close to the watch
area. Persons in these areas should be on the lookout for
threatening weather conditions and listen for later statements
and possible warnings.

Discussion... tstms/possible supercells expected to pose an
increasing risk for isolated tornadoes... in addition to high wind
and possible hail... as heating continues in weakly
confluent/moistening WSW low lvl flow. Moderate deep nwly shear
with increasing directional component with ern extent may enhance
potential for storms to remain semi-discrete.

Aviation... tornadoes and a few severe thunderstorms with hail
surface and aloft to 1.5 inches. Extreme turbulence and surface
wind gusts to 60 knots. A few cumulonimbi with maximum tops to
500. Mean storm motion vector 29030.

79. nash28 05:53 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Actually, the dust was never supposed to be a major issue when this thing first formed. However, it has been and it seems to basically be following 96L.
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82. Drakoen 05:54 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
right now i am guess that this is the peak of the dinural min phase. i don't exactly know what time it is down there.
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83. nolasoci 05:55 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Does anyone have an updated guidance model tracks for the disturbance???
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84. Drakoen 05:59 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
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85. TheCaneWhisperer 06:03 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
NHC on the fence too! Confidence is fading, as is mine.

...SPECIAL FEATURE...
A 1013 MB LOW PRES SYSTEM IS CENTERED NEAR 11N44W OR ABOUT 1000
NM E OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. THE CIRCULATION IS WELL-DEFINED
WITH THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER CLEARLY SEEN ON SATELLITE IMAGES AS IT
IS EXPOSED TO THE N OF A WEAKENING BAND OF CONVECTION WITHIN 120
NM SSW OF THE CENTER. HOWEVER...THERE IS STILL POTENTIAL FOR
DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO BEFORE CONDITIONS BECOME
LESS FAVORABLE.

$$
CANGIALOSI
86. MikeOhio 06:05 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
I like how some on here are blaming Iraq and the President for something that isn't even on that level.

For those of you saying that "this is how the government works" aren't quite making the leap.

From my experience, this has all of the makings of a power struggle. It sounds to me that Proenza wasn't the guy the powers that be at NOAA wanted in the job (or his senior forecasters it seems). This happens quite a bit in the civilian side of DOD. You get a guy in there that wasn't your first choice, you undercut him, underfund him, etc. It does happen all the time in the Civilian world (note NOT the military one).....

The money is there (if it wasn't Proenza there would be no doubt) and while they are trimming fat and stuff in a few places (IT support is my field for example), the budget this year was passed by the Democrats, so while any shortfalls in funding might have been coming for a while, nothing's changed even though the party in power in the Congress has.....interesting.....for all the rhetoric, everything stays the status quo.....something to think about at least.....

Happy Fourth everyone
87. RL3AO 06:05 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
The models are keeping further south. That might help in develop in the next few days.
88. TheRingo 06:05 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Posted By: Drakoen at 1:54 PM EDT on July 04, 2007.
right now i am guess that this is the peak of the dinural min phase. i don't exactly know what time it is down there.


It's about 5pm where 96L is located.
89. Drakoen 06:10 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
is there something wrong with the site?
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90. Thundercloud01221991 06:11 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
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91. RL3AO 06:11 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
I think so Drak.


Heres a new one.

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
911 TELEPHONE OUTAGE EMERGENCY
LAWRENCE COUNTY KENTUCKY 911 CENTER
RELAYED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV
1249 PM EDT WED JUL 4 2007

...911 TELEPHONE OUTAGE EMERGENCY...

THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS TRANSMITTED AT THE REQUEST OF THE
LAWRENCE COUNTY KENTUCKY 911 CENTER.

THE 911 SYSTEM IN LAWRENCE COUNTY KENTUCKY REMAINS DOWN. THERE IS
NO ESTIMATE OF WHEN THE SYSTEM WILL BE BACK IN OPERATION. CALL
YOUR LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE.

$$

REISSUED TO CLARIFY AS LAWRENCE COUNTY KENTUCKY
92. moonlightcowboy 06:12 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Isn't there some convection trying to rebuild over the center?
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94. flibinite 06:12 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Happy 4th of July to you all, and sorry about last night, for the majority part. I have a question, though, which I'm sure many have already answered, but which I haven't seen. I just can't understand why the air over the ocean can get so dry. One would think, especially during the daylight hours, that there would be so much evaporative cooling going on that the air would be filled with humidity and moisture that a storm could use. Why doesn't that seem to happen?

Jo
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96. bigdil 06:16 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Drakoen, do you have a link to your models? TIA

dil
97. TheCaneWhisperer 06:16 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
3:15pm out there Dak!

Good Map!
98. TheCaneWhisperer 06:19 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
Sorry 4:17!
100. Thundercloud01221991 06:21 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
The clock is 1 hour off it says that it is 1:20 EST but it is 2:20 so it is 4:20 there
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101. JupiterFL 06:21 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007    
You all can never leave the political BS alone can you.
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