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Challenging Bill Proenza's QuikSCAT numbers
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 05:04 PM GMT am 04. Juli 2007 +4
A political storm engulfed the National Hurricane Center this week, with a majority of the senior hurricane forecasters calling for Bill Proenza's removal as director. The most visible issue revolved around the extraordinary focus on the aging QuikSCAT satellite. The public argument put forth by Mr. Proenza was that QuikSCAT data was so vital to hurricane track forecasting that without it, track forecast errors would increase significantly, leading to larger warning areas and increased costs for evacuation and emergency planning.

Focus on QuikSCAT--out of proportion?
On March 16th Proenza went public with the QuikSCAT concerns and associated statistics for the first time, stating that "two- and three-day forecasts of a storm's path would be affected. The two-day forecast could be 10 percent worse while the three-day one could be affected up to 16 percent," with the conclusion," that would mean longer stretches of coastline would have to be placed under warnings, and more people than necessary would have to evacuate." As a result of these comments, a perception arose in the public and among lawmakers that without QuikSCAT, NHC would not be able to provide accurate hurricane forecasts. Legislation was hastily introduced into both the House and Senate to provide an immediate replacement for the $375 million satellite.

Proenza's statements raised several questions: 1) Why the focus on track forecast errors in landfalling situations, when QuikSCAT was widely known to be used in intensity forecasting and for tropical cyclones too far at sea to be accessed by the Hurricane Hunters? 2) Could such specific and significant gains in track forecast error truly be attributed to QuikSCAT? Where did these numbers come from, and why was no uncertainty being attached to them?

Since QuikSCAT data became available, starting in 1999, average track errors for 48-hour and 72-hour forecasts have been reduced by 43 miles and 62 miles respectively. Fully one quarter of this improvement was being attributed by Proenza to QuikSCAT. This was an extraordinary performance increase to attribute to one satellite, and seemed doubtful.

We find out where the QuikSCAT numbers came from
In mid-June, Margie Kieper and I asked Proenza to comment on how he got his QuikSCAT numbers. He cited an unpublished study, "A Two Season Impact Study of Four Satellite Data Types and Rawinsonde Data in the NCEP Global Data Assimilation System", by Tom H. Zapotocny, James A. Jung, John F. LeMarshall and Russ E. Treadon. I contacted one of the authors, who informed me that the study was submitted for publication on January 26, 2007, and accepted for publication in the journal Weather and Forecasting on May 23, 2007. It will probably appear in the October-November time frame, according to the publisher. This raises an immediate problem, since only a privileged few are able to read unpublished research. This limits the possibilities for an informed debate on the issue, and basing important policy decisions on unpublished research is thus normally to be avoided. However, making accurate hurricane forecasts is important enough that such considerations can be excused. Proenza didn't give me any details on the study, other than the fact that QuikSCAT data improved 72-hour and 48-hour hurricane track forecasts by 16% and 10% respectively, for a select group of storms from the 2003 hurricane season. One of the authors graciously sent me a copy of the study, though, and after reading it, I had these observations:

1). The study looked at a very limited number of cases over a six-week period during 2003--only 19 cases were available for 72 hour forecasts. The 19 cases were not 19 storms, just 19 separate forecasts from the 4 hurricanes and 2 tropical storms that occurred during the 6-week study period. This sample is too small to draw definitive conclusions about the impact of the QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts. The two longest-lived storms during the test period were Fabian and Isabel, storms that spent the majority of their lifetimes far away from land. Since the quality of the observing network increases close to land, particulary when reconnaissance data from the Hurricane Hunters is available, it is reasonable to conclude that the impact of the QuikSCAT data for storms within 72 hours of landfall would be less than for the sample as a whole. The study was not primarily designed to study tropical cyclone track accuracy, so there was no separation out of the cases we really care about--storms 72 hours or less from landfall.

2). The study was done with only one model, the GFS. NHC official forecasts make use of several models, including the GFDL, UKMET, NOGAPS and ECMWF. Consequently, a change in the accuracy of a single model will have only a partial effect on NHC official forecast accuracy. As far as I know, there have not been studies done of the impact of QuikSCAT on tropical cyclone forecasts in the GFDL, UKMET or the ECMWF models. Past studies on the impact of dropsonde data from the Hurricane Hunters, however, show that the GFDL is less sensitive to these data than the GFS is.

3). When I attended the AMS hurricane conference in May 2006 in Monterey, I came across a poster presentation by Dr. Jim Goerss that evaluated the impact of QuikSCAT on the NOGAPS model. His study was far more comprehensive, and included 12 hurricanes, 5 typhoons, and 7 tropical storms from a 6-week period in 2004. The number of cases was 212 at 72 hours, eleven times as many as the study Proenza cites. Dr. Goerss found that QuikSCAT probably improved 24-hour track forecasts by 2.5% (90% confidence of this), but at all other forecast times (48, 72, 96, and 120 hours), QuikSCAT had no statistically significant effect (i.e., zero effect).

It is hard to compare the results from these two studies, since they used two different data assimilation systems. We do not know if they used all the data, or how they treated the vertical impact of the data. The uncertainties are high, and Proenza's simple statement that QuikSCAT data improves hurricane tracks forecasts by 10% and 16% is unreasonable, without at least making mention that these numbers are highly uncertain.

I believe that NHC official forecasts for landfalling storms in the Atlantic would not be significantly affected by the loss of the QuikSCAT satellite. I can't think of a hurricane scientist out there who would defend using a study with only 19 cases that didn't focus on landfalling storms, to make the case Proenza is making--particularly in light of the data from the unpublished Goerss study showing no effect of QuikSCAT data on NOGAPS model tropical cyclone track errors. Proenza should have at least attached some measure of uncertainty to his numbers, which he did not.

One could argue that the study cited by Proenza has undergone peer review, and is thus the only scientific study one can use to make arguments on QuikSCAT's effectiveness. The Goerss study has not been published in a journal, and has not undergone peer review. However, Proenza was making his QuikSCAT accuracy arguments in March, two months before the Zapotocny study he cited had been accepted for publication.

QuikSCAT misconceptions
The numbers pushed by Proenza have led to some potentially serious misconceptions about QuikSCAT. The Congressional Record has this to say about QuikSCAT:

"A single plane gathering data is like a tiny fishing line collecting data only along the single strand of the line. The satellite, on the other hand, provides rich, detailed data horizontally from one side of the storm to the other side, and vertically, from the ocean surface to the top of the storms swirling winds. The QuikSCAT is like a detailed MRI."

Well, QuikSCAT is not like an MRI, it just measures the ocean surface winds. In a letter written by Representatives Melancon and Klein in support of H.R. 2531, there are comments that data from the reconnaissance aircraft are inferior to the data from the QuikSCAT:

"Short-term options for replacing QuikSCAT include hurricane hunter aircraft, buoys, and foreign satellites--all of which will collectively produce inferior data."

There is not a hurricane forecaster anywhere that would trade hurricane hunter data for QuikSCAT. Lawmakers may start cutting aircraft reconnaissance with misconceptions like this. That would be a disaster.

I would hate to lose the QuikSCAT satellite, and have been calling for a replacement since before Mr. Proenza came on the job. QuickSCAT data is invaluable in identifying weak systems and in defining storm structure, particularly of outer wind radii of 34 knots and 50 knots. This is particularly true outside of the Atlantic, where there are no Hurricane Hunter flights, and in the Atlantic beyond where the Hurricane Hunters can reach. Track forecasts for tropical cyclones in the Pacific and Indian Oceans may benefit from QuikSCAT data, since Hurricane Hunter information is not available. QuikSCAT also helps identify when a tropical depression or tropical storm is intensifying.

Besides hurricanes, the QuickSCAT data is invaluable to the Ocean Prediction Center, which now issues hurricane force wind warnings for extratropical storms in the Atlantic and Pacific. Search and rescue missions, and the U.S. Navy also greatly benefit from QuikSCAT. QuikSCAT should be replaced, but not due to a rush knee-jerk reaction that will get us a replacement with old technology. NHC needs a "next-generation" scatterometer, one that has greatly improved capabilities to help tackle the structure and intensity problem. We should take our time, and deal with a gap in coverage, if it gets us an instrument that has higher resolution, higher saturation speed, and is not adversely affected by rain. Such a gap would not put the public at risk.

It greatly troubles me that the most visible and admired member of my profession has failed to use good science in his arguments for funding a replacement of the QuikSCAT satellite. The Director of the National Hurricane Center needs to be an able politician and good communicator, but being truthful with the science is a fundamental requirement of the job as well. Mr. Proenza has misrepresented the science on the QuikSCAT issue, and no longer has my support as director of the National Hurricane Center.

Other critical concerns--lost in the hubbub?
We strongly support many of the valid concerns Proenza has raised. Of particular concern are the slashing of critical research funding for the Joint Hurricane Testbed (JHT) from $1.7 million to $1 million, and the lack of adequate yearly increases to the National Hurricane Center budget. Both of these important concerns still remain to be addressed; they were quickly overshadowed by a frantic campaign by lawmakers to fund a new QuikSCAT satellite. The JHT provides the means for promising research to be tested in the NHC operational environment, usually resulting in a successful transition to an operational product at NHC. This program has been extremely successful, and its budget should have been increased, not slashed. As hurricane activity has increased dramatically over the last twelve years, NHC's budget should have increased accordingly, but it did not.

Proenza also raised legitimate concerns about NOAA's effort to promote their "Corporate Identity" by renaming the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service. The new organizations would be called the "NOAA Hurricane Center" and the "NOAA Weather Service". He also justly complained about NOAA's plan to spend between $1.5 million and $4 million on a "bogus" 200-year NOAA anniversary celebration.

While wanting to take a neutral stand as to whether to call for Proenza's dismissal, Senior NHC Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avila clearly shares the concerns that have been put forth by the other senior forecasters Richard Pasch, James Franklin, and Richard Knabb, and former director Max Mayfield. Avila noted, "If I [was] the director of the hurricane center, I would not spend my time fighting for QuikSCAT--I would be fighting to make sure that the reconnaissance planes are always there." That leaves a vacationing Jack Beven as the only senior hurricane forecaster to not comment publicly on the issue. Max Mayfield has refrained from making public comments on the deteriorating situation these past months, but all of his comments in the Miami Herald article lend support for the hurricane forecast staff. Given his previous experience in the position of NHC Director and his successful tenure, his feedback counts tremendously.

With the busiest part of hurricane season just a few weeks away, expect a decision on Bill Proenza's tenure to be made soon.

Jeff Masters and Margie Kieper

Having lost the support of most of his senior forecasters, and having misrepresented the science on the importance of the QuikSCAT satellite on hurricane forecasts, it would be best for Mr. Proenza to step down as director of the National Hurricane Center.

--Jeff Masters

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601. Drakoen 02:01 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Taz resize you image plz.
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602. stormybil 02:01 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
all week long all the post kept saying sheer is low and will get lower now its high again im getting dizzy here
604. Tazmanian 02:02 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
and mark my words wind shear is vary low and it will stay like that all the way up to the gulf of mx that is where 96L is going for now any way so i dont no what the TWC and NHC are talking about unfavourable wind shear
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605. eye 02:03 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
convection south of COC, same thing happened last night and the night before....
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606. IKE 02:04 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Look at the shear maps on WU. They show becoming unfavorable this weekend for the central/eastern Caribbean.
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607. weathersp 02:04 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Taz you have ghanged your mind? On page 9 you siad that 96L wasnt going to make it and to watch that blob coming off of africa..

:)
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609. Drakoen 02:04 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
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610. stormybil 02:05 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
yes eye but the differnce is tonight 96l can double what it did last night as the dry air is moving out thats what we are waiting to see
612. pottery2 02:06 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Its small, but it certainly has all the appearance of a storm now.
What a persistant little thing. Amazing. Just goes to show something or the other...........
613. eye 02:06 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
you keep showing the convection pics, but it is S of center, what little exists....if it was over center, then maybe, but this system has never been able to get the convection over center and NEVER N.
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614. HurricaneGeek 02:06 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
I see bands or bans...idk
forming on it
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615. moonlightcowboy 02:07 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Drakoen, w/out visibles, how are you able to see vertical levels stacked? TIA
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617. Drakoen 02:08 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Posted By: moonlightcowboy at 2:07 AM GMT on July 05, 2007.

Drakoen, w/out visibles, how are you able to see vertical levels stacked? TIA


vorticy analysis of the mid and low levels.
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618. HurricaneGeek 02:08 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
This is looking storm like to me
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619. eye 02:08 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
it looks the same as earlier, no improvement on structure
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620. Tazmanian 02:08 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
yes i changed my mind
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621. Drakoen 02:08 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
still has the potential to be a tropical cyclone according to the NHC.
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622. Drakoen 02:09 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Posted By: stormybil at 2:05 AM GMT on July 05, 2007.

yes eye but the differnce is tonight 96l can double what it did last night as the dry air is moving out thats what we are waiting to see


yes. thats true.
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623. moonlightcowboy 02:09 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Drakoen, great, that helps it for sure! Can you show us how to see that? TIA
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625. Drakoen 02:10 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
it certainly does no look the same as earlier. Earlier it had not convection now it has some. Remains something worth watching and is the only thing worth watching in mh opinion.
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626. RL3AO 02:11 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
If it is dead eye, then leave. TTYL when something forms?
627. Drakoen 02:11 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
go here and click through the different layers.
Link
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628. eye 02:11 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
it looks like the convection is beginning to look ragged.....it is spreading out the wrong way, needs to move N not E and W....
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629. weathersp 02:12 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
The north side is totally engulfed by dry air... I think the Dry air over top of the LLC and preventing the bands and the COC from developing. Basically putting a cap on the potential T-storms.

Water Vapor 96L
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630. RL3AO 02:12 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
The Western Pacific is getting really busy. 4 invests this week and now a TS and 94W looks great.
631. ustropics 02:13 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.html

Everyone take a REALLY good look at the upper level wind shear in the Caribbean as of right now...this is just going to spread as 96L approaches...This is what the NHC and almost all of the the other professional mets have been forecasting to take place in the next 24-48 hours.
632. RL3AO 02:13 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
weathersp...look east. The air is more moist and the dust is moving faster than the invest. Its not dead yet.
633. eye 02:14 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
look at all that dry air.....
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634. Drakoen 02:14 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Posted By: eye at 2:11 AM GMT on July 05, 2007.

it looks like the convection is beginning to look ragged.....it is spreading out the wrong way, needs to move N not E and W....


the convection just started to build...
If you look at the to the east of teh system with the RGB loop you can see the moisture coming up.
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635. stormybil 02:14 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
speacial buuliten ........forcasters on the weather blog are all in disagreement as 96l seems to be better organizied a this hour they will look over and check the sheer maps again and we will have a full report at 11 pm est on possiblie td3 stay tuned
637. weathersp 02:17 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Oh no RL3AO I din't say it was dead... Not at all! I am just putting out a fact.
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638. Drakoen 02:17 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
some of us aren't looking at this which shows moisture in the upper levels

Link
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639. pottery2 02:17 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Well I'll be dammed !!! 4 loud growls of thunder in the last 10 mins. First I've heard in a long time. From what looks like a wall of black just to me east. Its about time........
640. Drakoen 02:18 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
ustropoics we see that but there is still the possibility of something to form before that time.
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641. pottery2 02:19 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
And now its pouring down. Halleliuha !
642. weathersp 02:20 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Drako.. if it cant get through the lower level of dry air it cant grow and tap that moisture.. But I have I have to say that is impressive.
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643. eye 02:21 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
when you wishcast apond a wave.....
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645. ustropics 02:21 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Yea I said that earlier on here or storm2k. If 96L has a shot it needs to start consistently showing convection and sustain it into tomorrow or your best bet is to start watching the wave about to come off of Africa.
646. Dakster 02:22 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Pottery2,

That was fireworks and the black cloud is the gun powder...

Hope you get rain nonetheless. It is worse outside in FLorida then when the fires were burning.

96L looks like convection is firing up again at the diurnal max. Again, the little engine that could...
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647. amazinwxman 02:23 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
I'll just wait until the 11pm for the "update" on this alleged TD ( I use alleged loosely)
648. stormybil 02:23 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
it went from nothing to something in less than 3 hours what will tonight bring will it make as td 3 ?
649. RL3AO 02:23 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
I'll check it out in about a week ustropics.
651. pottery2 02:24 AM GMT am 05. Juli 2007    
Trinidad weather now
79 F
94 % humid. Wind 8 mph NE
press 1015 steady
time 10:20 pm

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